Karl and Rickys thoughts on Pilkipedia?

[CantSayBien]

^ Bet you wouldn't be saying that if their previous work didn't exist.

Seriously, have you seen some of the latest American shitcoms? Gary Unmarried and Mike & Molly come to mind but I'm sure it gets much worse than that.

I'm with half-biscuit, when the show was airing I got pretty sick of reading all the "omg worst show ever" remarks. I wasn't particularly a fan but I liked parts of it.

[chinchilla]

^ Bet you wouldn't be saying that if their previous work didn't exist.

.

there is no way life's too short would have made it to broadcast without their previous works....any show that bad written by anyone else would have been rejected at the synopisis stage..



i have no doubt that life's too short never even had a proper synopsis stage...it had a 'how can we fit in with these celebs schedule's' stage instead...


the type of shitty shwos you mention have an audience for them and they are more or less succesful in beign what they are...there is no audience for life's too short at all...

[BritishHobo]

It's easy for people to say 'well you wouldn't say that if that wasn't Ricky Gervais', but that's not really true at all. In fact for me, I was excited as shit for this, and I posted as such on here. Extras 2.0 with Warwick Davis? Fuck yeah.

But it just... unlike these other sitcoms which you say Life's Too Short is at least better than, it felt completely first-draft. Those other sitcoms feel polished, but with jokes I don't enjoy. Life's Too Short was just a jumble of ideas, not many of which worked. For example the episode where Warwick goes to a church and calls the priest a paedo, then meets a scientologist and says the word 'cult' before falling in a bin or something. That was described as 'This week Warwick goes on a spiritual journey', it was really just an excuse to make tired paedophile 'jokes' and impossibly tired Scientology 'jokes'. As much as flat out saying the thing (Catholics are paedos! Scientology is a cult!) can be a joke.

Just all of it, the forced, pointless cameos, the last-minute decision to make it a mockumentary, the very rough and forced dialogue and awkwardness ('Who are you?' 'Warwick Davis, mate' 'NOBODY KNOWS WHO YOU ARE!!!!!!!!' 'Alright mate, I only asked you do ring a doorbell, christ'), 'Barry from Eastenders, Les Dennis and Keith Chegwin' being used as if that's an actual punchline by itself, the romance where Warwick's constantly a dick and yet she still sticks around, the inevitable, tacked on 'Happy Ending;, not to mention the many characters, jokes and situations taken straight from The Office and Extras, Smerchant being given about two whole lines, one of which was 'Barry from Eastenders and Les Dennis are outside', and basically every moment of Gervais' being unironically smug and boastful, it just felt like a cobbled together mess that they'd rushed out and thought 'they'll eat that up'.

As chinch says, if this wasn't a Gervais/Merchant show, it wouldn't have made it past pilot. It was carried by name, and that alone makes it worse for me than 'the other dross'.

[CantSayBien]

I suppose I would define the word "worse" to mean a more objective view which is independent of previous work and such. I'd call it "disappointing" rather than flat out "bad". But each to their own.

[Lachrymose]

I'm always surprise when people are upset that Karl has a low opinion of Pilkipedia.

He hates everything. That's why people love him.

I'd be more upset if he loved the place. It'd be totally out of character and show he'd changed.

[Steven]

Seriously, have you seen some of the latest American shitcoms? Gary Unmarried and Mike & Molly come to mind but I'm sure it gets much worse than that.

America produces x100 better TV than Britian once you wade through all of the bad stuff (recent ABC and NBC comedies mainly). British TV is mainly all bad.

[CantSayBien]

Yeah, I just don't know the bad UK ones because they never make it to Australia. I love a lot of current American shows too. I like in the UK now but only really watch TV online. "Is it on the internet??" "He's resting on his laurels!"

[Like_A_Pear]

Oh, I'd also like to point out those 20 teenagers are actually 200,000 unique visitors a month, of all ages from all over the globe.

Love ya Karl you round headed cund.

[Robyn]

1) Ricky's defence regarding the Golden Globes last year was "These are celebrities. It's Brad Pitt. He's married to fecking Angelina Jolie. These people have the most incredibly kushty life, why in the WORLD would they be bothered by this sort of criticism?" And yet...Celebrity Ricky Gervais is letting a fan forum get to him.

2) On the other hand, more than anything Gervais loves a reaction. And who's going to give him more of a reaction then Pilkipedia? It's sort of the way I take his militant atheism - he likes to pretend it's a moral crusade, but in reality it's just that he finds furious religious people hilarious.

3) The people who where up in arms about "Han Shoots First" and the decline in the Star Wars prequals are the fans. The people who genuinly think Star Wars is not worth while don't bother criticising. It's the passion that Lucus fans have for the world he created that can make them feel so intensily positive when it's good, and so negitively when it goes arry. If all the feedback an artist gets back is positive, then their work is milk toast. Ricky use to understand that, especially in the Office days.

[TooMuchLyingLow]

I just realized that since I love all of Bob Dylan's albums from the 60s and 70s but hate the majority of his work from the 80s (apart from Oh Mercy) and early-mid 90s that I am a jealous hater forum loser. Ricky's impeccable use of reason and logic has helped me realize this

[Nicola]

You hate Time Out of Mind? That's my favorite album of his and I have about 25. Love and Theft is also a really great later album.

[Half_Biscuit]

You hate Time Out of Mind? That's my favorite album of his and I have about 25. Love and Theft is also a really great later album.

I also love World Gone Wrong, not as good as Time out of Mind, but still one his only 90s highlights.

[TooMuchLyingLow]

What in my post made you think I hate Time Out Of Mind? I think it's quite clear that I'm identifying that album as the resumption of my fandom (1997 - today)

[HelloEverybody]

Either way, I'm still concerned with the fact that you implied that you love Self Portrait.

[Nicola]

What in my post made you think I hate Time Out Of Mind? I think it's quite clear that I'm identifying that album as the resumption of my fandom (1997 - today)

Sorry, I was thinking of Time Out of Mind as a 1996 album since it was recorded then, forgot it was released in 1997, my mistake. I was just thinking you meant his later albums, which I was surprised about since I think those are some of his best. I didn't know you meant after the mid 90s you became a fan again.